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Saturday, October 06, 2012


becoming enlightened

Namaste and Greetings.

Reading through :

I would be interested in discussion here -  that all life is but a projection. The lecture (the above link) on topic is fertile with statements and and below are a few interesting quotes...

Interesting quotes:

" Jung himself had much to say about the phenomenon of projection and we will examine it soon enough.  It is enough for now to hear these few words, “All the contents of our unconscious are constantly being projected into our surroundings.”"

"Rumi, the Sufi mystic, once wrote, “We are the mirror as well as the face in it.  We are the pain and what cures the pain, both.  We are the sweet cold water and the jar that pours.”  (Barks, The Essential Rumi, p. 106.)  He is suggesting that there is an inseparable relationship between the subject and the object; what is out there cannot be separated from what is in here."

"jung: Just as we tend to assume that the world is as we see it, we naively suppose that people are as we imagine them to be.  In this latter case, unfortunately, there is no scientific test that would prove the discrepancy between perception and reality"

And this the fun one that is the key of what I would like to discuss... what is enlightenment? How do our dreams within a Jungian landscape assist us in becoming...

"In a comparatively primitive person this creates that characteristic relationship to the object, which Levy-Bruhl has fittingly called ‘mystic identity’ or ‘participation mystique.’  Thus every normal person of our time, who is not reflective beyond the average, is bound to his environment by a whole system of projections"

To become enlightened to be reflective above average to become able to rise above subject object reflections and see our self and see others without judgement and for what they are in truth and what we are in truth. To be grounded and to be gracious of others journey's and allow others their Karma and their Dharma, to become enlightened is to?


The reason I posit this is that I have been of late struggling with this lonely place where I look around and see people in the Dharma and see myself in my Dharma and realize that all I can do is witness others process of living they cycle of their Karma in the way they need - that I can say nothing or do nothing other then 'be' and 'allow' and what I can to make I maintain my livelihood and home and family/father responsibility. This realization is lonely because there are not bounding others jumping out of small town America to share this with in my neighborhood.

In my neighborhood is normalcy and typical. 

To become enlightened... to me is to realize the projections of self and others is just that and nothing more and that existing in space time and within relationship frameworks is to be cognizant and gracious of peoples struggle and to the best of ones ability to be a shelter in the storm for those whom seek shelter.

Would LOVE to discuss this.


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